tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post5582730567040847004..comments2023-09-20T12:50:40.208+01:00Comments on Pete Brown: I am so fucking bored by the beer discourse of 2015Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03011702209832734676noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-6265209298466185182015-05-07T16:38:34.008+01:002015-05-07T16:38:34.008+01:00I agree except for the swear words which I don'...I agree except for the swear words which I don't like - the current fashion for it is a complete mystery to me. <br /><br />As you are frank in your posts, Pete, I am sure this bit of feedback won't upset you and it is meant in good faith from an admirer. <br /><br />By the way I share your taste in Peroni (when it is fresh).<br /><br />GaryGary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-1056615100514525472015-05-07T13:07:54.755+01:002015-05-07T13:07:54.755+01:00At the end of the day Pete, it all comes down to t...At the end of the day Pete, it all comes down to taste. And if you like what you like, I don't give a flying f**k if it's cask, keg, fast cask, craft - it really doesn't matter a jot.<br /><br />CAMRA have won the war (the war they started fighting in St Albans in 1971, anyway), now they've got to liberate the pubs and the bars and the taverns in which the beer they fought for is drunk.John Meddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10547777949324509522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-64592134942450116412015-05-07T09:55:29.860+01:002015-05-07T09:55:29.860+01:00Great piece Pete.
I think CAMRA's AGM was a ...Great piece Pete. <br /><br />I think CAMRA's AGM was a real turning point for the campaign and I was really impressed by the decisions made in Nottingham.<br /><br />Optimistic, inclusive, forward-thinking motions were approved with huge majorities - whilst navel gazing, negative motions were defeated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-88041660499310194442015-05-07T09:53:03.608+01:002015-05-07T09:53:03.608+01:00I do enjoy your writing.I do enjoy your writing.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12314096465938014335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-12020848564320013322015-05-07T09:52:12.961+01:002015-05-07T09:52:12.961+01:00I do enjoy your writing.I do enjoy your writing.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12314096465938014335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-30823403845413769772015-05-06T17:37:03.495+01:002015-05-06T17:37:03.495+01:00Mark,
Thanks for reminding me of that - I'd ...Mark, <br /><br />Thanks for reminding me of that - I'd completely forgotten! Obviously written from a much more chilled out place than the one I was in last nigjt.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03011702209832734676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-70604993336703033512015-05-06T17:36:58.114+01:002015-05-06T17:36:58.114+01:00Mark,
Thanks for reminding me of that - I'd ...Mark, <br /><br />Thanks for reminding me of that - I'd completely forgotten! Obviously written from a much more chilled out place than the one I was in last nigjt.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03011702209832734676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-37864174942142878532015-05-06T17:35:54.447+01:002015-05-06T17:35:54.447+01:00Joe, I thought your piece on the Blue Moon thing w...Joe, I thought your piece on the Blue Moon thing was brilliantly written. I loved the prose. And then I thought, 'Why is this prose being wasted on something tiresome like this?' It was one of the things that prompted me to write. Not a criticism of you and the necessities of earning your crust, but of the scene in which we have to do it and which we all contribute to.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03011702209832734676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-42481784939885817492015-05-06T14:23:12.614+01:002015-05-06T14:23:12.614+01:00At least it's not a rant about the general ele...At least it's not a rant about the general election !<br /><br />Don't forget to vote UKIP - we're the only ones with a smile on our faces these days.<br /><br />Apart from the SNP.<br /><br />Wahaay !Professor Pie-Tinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-46332215205228477852015-05-06T14:00:14.202+01:002015-05-06T14:00:14.202+01:00Rah! You tell 'em! :-)Rah! You tell 'em! :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048602176561777395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-60438653023591355892015-05-06T11:59:30.257+01:002015-05-06T11:59:30.257+01:00Your post is like a nice slug of cool water this m...Your post is like a nice slug of cool water this morning. Thanks Pete. <br /><br />I'll fess up and say I'm as guilty as anyone. I'm a journalist by training and I'm looking for issues -- not just new beers to taste, because anyone can do that -- but about ways that beer relates to and affects our lives, besides giving us pleasure. That last part's easy. People don't need writers for that. <br /><br />But when my daughter sees pump clips with tits on them, or brewers are being less than truthful on their labels, or bigger breweries are paying bars to keep the smaller ones out... I don't know. I think issues these do affect drinkers and are worth writing about.<br /><br />Having said that: The Internet as a medium takes rather too easily to outrage and negativity. Click-bait, outrage cycles, and so on... We become desensitized to the sensational. Downright fatigued. Probably we are over-emphasizing that stuff at the expense of the more useful and uncontroversial.Joe Stangehttp://www.thirstypilgrim.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-66555507717407058802015-05-06T10:51:22.410+01:002015-05-06T10:51:22.410+01:00Oh, the "utterly wonderful place beer is in r...Oh, the <i>"utterly wonderful place beer is in right now"</i>? So everything <b>is</b> awesome <b>now</b>? Brilliant!StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-48902525233632814352015-05-06T09:44:43.897+01:002015-05-06T09:44:43.897+01:00I am so fucking bored by IPAs and undue reverence ...I am so fucking bored by IPAs and undue reverence thereof. <br /><br />Subtlety is the new big hops. Jeff Pickthallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06343140031285101096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-47282505586760940042015-05-06T09:34:35.485+01:002015-05-06T09:34:35.485+01:00I'd go further. Can we please have conversatio...I'd go further. Can we please have conversations in pubs and bars that don't start 'This Beer.....', like what the overwhelming number of pub-goers and beer drinkers do.....Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15595039296072668714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-78576048360651090282015-05-06T08:59:48.850+01:002015-05-06T08:59:48.850+01:00"But the petty debates only matter if you pay..."But the petty debates only matter if you pay attention to them: the momentum behind beer is now bigger and more powerful than a bunch of bloggers and hopheads can have any control over."<br /><br />That is a comment you wrote on a blog post of mine when I went on a similar tirade against negativity. There's no doubt that sometimes the negative feelings fuel the passion for writing more than the positive thoughts of 'this beer is nice. this pub is good.' <br /><br />But you're right - you wrote in the same comment in August that it's the best time to be a beer drinker and that's only increased 9 months on. It's just the bigger it gets the more bullshit appears. There's a lot of people who could do with spending a few nights just enjoying a few pints without it being an "event." I think we're all guilty of forgetting a littleMark Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08120450909482158409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-58263797986626797582015-05-06T08:18:57.169+01:002015-05-06T08:18:57.169+01:00LIsten Pete. I agree with you; it's why I star...LIsten Pete. I agree with you; it's why I started my own beer writing: to be 'pro beer'. And yes, debates about, for example, the meaning of craft are uhhhhh..... sooo tedious. BUT, what would happen if we stopped? Not now, not next year but 10 years from now? I'll tell you: the 'big brewers' (which by then I assume will include BrewDog, Stone, (blimey, there's a book right there)...) will think they've won and they'll all start focusing on removing costs from the their ever lighter, ever less hoppier IPA to please their stakeholders from their recent PLC flotation. As Mufasa said, "it's the Circle of Life". A constant barrage dear boy, a constant barrage is what's needed.Davidhttp://www.beertintedspectacles.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-991375258762386962015-05-06T07:57:10.792+01:002015-05-06T07:57:10.792+01:00More variety is a good thing, less criticism of st...More variety is a good thing, less criticism of stuff that I can perhaps taste and judge myself by the "media". People will find their own Happy Beer if left to themselves...... Love your posts continue blogging it's all good.IT Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10199691055458966963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-6796735747893388692015-05-06T07:45:33.218+01:002015-05-06T07:45:33.218+01:00This was a very interesting read, and you're s...This was a very interesting read, and you're so right that so many enthusiasms degenerate into sophistry and side-taking. On the definition of craft beer, you might like to listen to my interview with Michele Sensidoni, head brewer at Mastri Birai Umbri. http://www.eatthispodcast.com/industrial-strength-craft-beer/<br /><br />We agreed, in the end, that what counts is a dedication to quality, not quantity.Jeremy Cherfashttp://jeremycherfas.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-44134628395353965862015-05-05T23:44:50.282+01:002015-05-05T23:44:50.282+01:00Pete, you are absolutely right, if drunk, and ther...Pete, you are absolutely right, if drunk, and there is nothing wrong with that! Beer is a personal thing, we all like different things, it is impossible (unfortunately as a brewer) to brew something everyone likes. A Porter/ Stout drinker will not like highly hopped pale ales, and vice versa. Get on with it, drink what you like, and enjoy. Beer drinking is great. ENJOY!! I even have some friends that like drinking Carling and Fosters. Their choice nothing wrong with that. Craft/ Cask/ Strong/ Weak (etc. etc.) are just descriptors. I only urge people to experiment, test your taste buds, but if you don't like something, don't call it a "bad beer" it's just something you (YOU) don't enjoy. Big isn't bad, and small isn't good necessarily, a beer you enjoy is the best!englishbeermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04039835121088025533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-32462884649503612252015-05-05T23:27:59.015+01:002015-05-05T23:27:59.015+01:00Moaning craft beer twats now sound more like flat-...<i>Moaning craft beer twats now sound more like flat-earth CAMRA twats that flat-earth CAMRA twats do.</i><br /><br />I love this blog post, and indeed this blog. And, yeah, the craftie atmos has got a bit weird lately, hasn't it. I'm wondering now if I've been confusing two superficially similar but very different positions - a smiley one that says "issues like how you define 'craft' don't matter - we can all agree that beer is the main thing, whichever definition we prefer" and a more hard-edged one that says "issues like how you define 'craft' don't matter - they really, really don't matter, and anyone who says they do matter is just wrong". I'm coming round to the second one.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07009879034507926661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-78127958398475712262015-05-05T23:22:30.600+01:002015-05-05T23:22:30.600+01:00Damn Right.Damn Right.Ghost Drinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00753576955816756710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-3494869501114728692015-05-05T23:05:19.171+01:002015-05-05T23:05:19.171+01:00Peroni? [goes off on mad, foaming at the mouth ra...Peroni? [goes off on mad, foaming at the mouth rant]<br /><br />No, seriously. Completely agree with everything you say. Sorry that's not the most interesting comment I could have made, but sometimes it's just necessary to stand up and say "yes. What 'e said."Andrew Bowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16537107239353802646noreply@blogger.com