tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post7857745376787818062..comments2023-09-20T12:50:40.208+01:00Comments on Pete Brown: Pub closures: is the worst over?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03011702209832734676noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-76139560635126475952010-12-21T03:53:53.644+00:002010-12-21T03:53:53.644+00:00It's always sad to see a pub close, but I'...It's always sad to see a pub close, but I've noticed that the ones that have, were badly run, serving rubbish beer, or no real ale at all.<br /><br />Good pubs and good beer will always survive. Quality will out.<br /><br />JohnJohn McNallyhttp://johnmcnally54.com/category/beer/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-23237808613948663392010-11-27T16:54:12.438+00:002010-11-27T16:54:12.438+00:00Look at the BBPA figures for on-trade beer consump...Look at the <a href="http://www.beerandpub.com/newsList_detail.aspx?newsId=362" rel="nofollow">BBPA figures for on-trade beer consumption</a>, which are showing a steady annual decline of 6-8%, and are 44% down on 1997. That rate of decline will halve total sales in ten years, and there's no sign of it abating. There has not been a year-on-year rise in any quarter covered by that series of stats.<br /><br />Of course it is possible for some pubs to do well in a declining market, but there are very few grounds for optimism regarding the market as a whole. In Stockport, four big prominent pubs have closed in the past few months, and another just over the Manchester border is being flogged off by its owners on the grounds of unviability.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-19053322714264524162010-11-27T16:18:38.371+00:002010-11-27T16:18:38.371+00:00Someone should do a report on how many new pubs ar...<i>Someone should do a report on how many new pubs are opening</i><br /><br />GD - all the figures Pete cited are <b>net</b> closures, i.e. closures minus new pubs. So the answer is "not enough"!Philhttp://ohgoodale.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-11123924862537994412010-11-27T14:14:48.794+00:002010-11-27T14:14:48.794+00:00I've heard a lot about the closing of hundreds...I've heard a lot about the closing of hundreds of pubs across the country, but I think it's quite hard to see unless you go looking for it. Coming from Leeds I've seen a few pubs which have gone under, and in all honesty, I'm not surprised. They were pubs which I'd be loathed to frequent, they were not nice places to drink. Should we care of closures such as these?? I'm not sure. Getting rid of old pubs, after-all, makes room for new pubs. Someone should do a report on how many new pubs are opening, we've just got two new MTT's one of which used to be an old unloved pub. I'm all up for supporting local businesses and pubs, but I need a reason to go back for that second drink.Ghost Drinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00753576955816756710noreply@blogger.com