tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post4177342631892513508..comments2023-09-20T12:50:40.208+01:00Comments on Pete Brown: National newspaper in anti-beer bias shockerAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03011702209832734676noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-10243742130874312472009-04-02T12:57:00.000+01:002009-04-02T12:57:00.000+01:00Hmmm, the idea of teenagers possibly getting plast...Hmmm, the idea of teenagers possibly getting plastered on some IPA clocking in at 150 IBU is indeed a very interesting one<BR/><BR/>Mind you, my nephew's 16, i.e. of drinking age 'round thees parts, and loves bitter beers, being very much of an exception among his peers who prefer sugary, bright-red bubble-gum flavoured boozy concoctions. <BR/>One out of a hundred, five hundred, a thousand teenagers, even more ?<BR/><BR/>Yet I suspect he'd nevertheless wince a tiny bit at that kind of bitterness level... I'll have to give it a try one of these days. ;o)Laurent Moussonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-50922019485591894442009-04-01T01:23:00.000+01:002009-04-01T01:23:00.000+01:00Thanks for the advice on how to write Jeffrey - I'...Thanks for the advice on how to write Jeffrey - I'll bear it in mind.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03011702209832734676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-31926464594847583072009-03-31T23:24:00.000+01:002009-03-31T23:24:00.000+01:00Jeff Pickthall: In 07/08 Alcohol Concern, a "chari...<B>Jeff Pickthall</B>: <I>In 07/08 Alcohol Concern, a "charity", received £4991 in public donations and £515,000 from the Government. You can find it on http://fakecharities.org/<BR/><BR/>Put the boot in!</I><BR/><BR/>Now come on, Jeff. Just because something is a registered charity doesn't imply it receives most - or indeed any - of its funds from public donations. It just means it's registered as a charity and therefore complies with the various requirements to do so.Stonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07001578598975666535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-63045992267804978692009-03-31T23:22:00.000+01:002009-03-31T23:22:00.000+01:00Pete - please, please be more succinct! I'm sure y...Pete - <B>please, please be more succinct!</B> I'm sure you're making good points - and you're better placed than anyone to be making them, it would seem - but that just <I>looks</I> like a <I>rant</I> and is unlikely to be read in full! Seriously!Stonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07001578598975666535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-19380383644408166762009-03-30T08:55:00.000+01:002009-03-30T08:55:00.000+01:00How wonderful it is to see such a gulf between the...How wonderful it is to see such a gulf between the Indy’s attention grabbing Googlesnagging headline and reality. Strangely the trumpeted 'health fears' never actually materialise in the copy and especially not in the form of a quote from anyone within the medical establishment. As for the ‘craze’ element, only one of the ales listed in available in supermarkets while the rest are mostly sold by the on-trade or via the shelves of a few specialist retailers, where they are ‘boldly marketing’ apparently, with labels! On the bottles!<BR/><BR/>Credit must go to the paper though as the words ‘over’ and the reported speech ‘extreme beers’ are both correct.Alex Cookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07527006757795657635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-34428948930913754862009-03-30T07:45:00.000+01:002009-03-30T07:45:00.000+01:00And having re-read the extract of your letter morn...And having re-read the extract of your letter morning (why does my son insist on waking at 4.30am? WHY??), I have to say that I eagerly await their response to this beautifully honed barb.ZakAveryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01794154105596597019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-32909520769723242452009-03-30T02:35:00.000+01:002009-03-30T02:35:00.000+01:00Well said. More folks need to make sure that the t...Well said. More folks need to make sure that the traditional association of beer with drunkenness is stamped out and replaced with an image of every other alcoholic drink. <BR/><BR/><BR/>No one seems to write these kinds of articles about the low-end vodkas that are available in gallon jugs. Maybe we need James Bond to ask for a Chocolate Stout in his next action movie.Ethan Johnhttp://geek-beer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-18991349064737783102009-03-30T00:36:00.000+01:002009-03-30T00:36:00.000+01:00What utter crap, riddled with inaccuracy and misin...What utter crap, riddled with inaccuracy and misinformation.Zak Averyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10650929798289995172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-37669756564213376892009-03-29T13:53:00.000+01:002009-03-29T13:53:00.000+01:00I know it’s not your ideological bent but today’s ...I know it’s not your ideological bent but today’s MOS Live magazine has a lovely spread on oysters and stout (page 30/31) by Parker Bowles; as well as stepping off the well-trodden Guinness path (stouts Palmers, Adnams and Whitstable Brewery are recommended), there are also other dark beer suggestions including Kostritzer, Budvar Dark and Zeitgeist. I suppose because of their past involvement with beer writing (Protz and Jackson), people expect more of the same from the Guardian and the Indie, but not any more i’m afraid. Rose revolutionaries indeed.Adrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-3764336968613377042009-03-29T08:05:00.000+01:002009-03-29T08:05:00.000+01:00Hmm - the Fourth Estate isn't exactly known for it...Hmm - the Fourth Estate isn't exactly known for its moderation. I've worked for the Indie, and been drinking with some of the staff many times - most of whom seemed to drink wifebeater or those vase-sized glasses of red. I don't think any of our group ever left before last orders. Mind you, that was back when it was a good paper.TIWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723235843548373098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-88671032444556056092009-03-29T00:13:00.000+00:002009-03-29T00:13:00.000+00:00PB: I'm increasingly depressed by most newspaper's...PB: I'm increasingly depressed by most newspaper's especially online content which seems to be written just to produce reaction and drive traffic to their sites. This looks like that sort of thing.<BR/><BR/>BTW.Did you see the wall to wall prizes in observer food awards last week for small local producers like brew dog, no they must have been hiding behind the winner a man who boils sea water to get salt if only good beer was as easy to make.BLTPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06564846497205095201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-6088951088529538502009-03-28T21:20:00.000+00:002009-03-28T21:20:00.000+00:00I saw this and commented on line for all the good ...I saw this and commented on line for all the good it will do!Paul Garrardhttp://www.realaleblog.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-89036126073746369132009-03-28T19:49:00.000+00:002009-03-28T19:49:00.000+00:00The Independent was useless before the new editor ...The Independent was useless before the new editor took over, and he's managed to get rid of their best feature writers and reduce any 'news' content even further. It's just a comic for wet liberal hand-wringers.<BR/><BR/>Camra used to place beer 'advertorials' in the magazine, but I trust they'll stop this practice and condemn this crap loudly.<BR/><BR/>Screw 'em, all of the so-called 'upmarket' dailies peddle this poxy middle-class colour supplement lifestyle, and wine is part of the shorthand they use to kid on their readership. Another one for the 'moron' file...Sid Bogglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-4116474538619559012009-03-28T18:24:00.000+00:002009-03-28T18:24:00.000+00:00Well done for raising this Pete - and a very compr...Well done for raising this Pete - and a very comprehensive argument you've made. I will write to them too.<BR/><BR/>I suppose I'll be taking the Sun from now on.Fatmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-44754813437396362952009-03-28T18:19:00.000+00:002009-03-28T18:19:00.000+00:00I've written to both the Guardian and the Independ...I've written to both the Guardian and the Independent in the past asking why they're so much more interested in wine than beer. I've never had a response. I guess they're very busy turning press releases from pressure groups (e.g. Alcohol Concern) into "stories".Baileyhttp://boakandbailey.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-4053538891590591712009-03-28T16:14:00.000+00:002009-03-28T16:14:00.000+00:00Don't you know all crops have litle tiny creatures...Don't you know all crops have litle tiny creatures that live in them that cause alcohol made from them to be either good or bad. Grapes has good creatures that lead to pleasant effects. Particularly in the middle class. Wheat and Barley are full of nasty creatures that when combined with the working class lead to fights and greyhound racing. Worst of all are apples which when turned into alcohol drive teenagers mental.<BR/><BR/>Oh wait am I confusing brewing with scientology again?Iamreddavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02768287658329807075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-31001488222262516822009-03-28T16:04:00.001+00:002009-03-28T16:04:00.001+00:00In 07/08 Alcohol Concern, a "charity", received £4...In 07/08 Alcohol Concern, a "charity", received £4991 in public donations and £515,000 from the Government. You can find it on http://fakecharities.org/<BR/><BR/>Put the boot in!Jeff Pickthallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06343140031285101096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30743480.post-83511124164853018152009-03-28T16:04:00.000+00:002009-03-28T16:04:00.000+00:00It’s diabolical but I suppose an ailing (no pun in...It’s diabolical but I suppose an ailing (no pun intended) paper needs to garner headlines some way — it’s always been this way, when Glenn Payne was bringing in Worldwide Stout for Safeway, this was targeted because of its strength; at £7 a 330ml bottle it was pointed out that your average binge drinkers would not be going for it.<BR/>Have you had a response — or are they yet another bunch of idiots lost without trace up their smug finger-wagging buttholes who never deign to talk to those who have different opinions? <BR/>And this was the paper that used to have Michael Jackson in every Saturday…Adrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.com